Comments on: Firing the first salvo at Richt? http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/ Serving the Bulldog Nation since 1995 Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:08:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: dieharddawg http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11244 dieharddawg Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:38:22 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11244 The downward train should have begun in 2005 my friend, but Richt managed to keep Shockley around. Success runs in cycles. Whiners annoy me. If Richt and the team were so petulant, they would be winless. The downward train should have begun in 2005 my friend, but Richt managed to keep Shockley around. Success runs in cycles. Whiners annoy me. If Richt and the team were so petulant, they would be winless.

]]> By: kckd http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11239 kckd Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:12:01 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11239 The downward train began in a year we won the SEC??? That's about as idiotic as it gets. The downward train began in a year we won the SEC???

That’s about as idiotic as it gets.

]]> By: SonuvaDawg http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11236 SonuvaDawg Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:52:23 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11236 Richpooch- "Keep drinking the Kool Aid my friend! The downward train began in 2005 and it appears it is gaining speed." We win the SEC Championship and that's the beginning of a downward spiral? That's one of the stupidest comments I've ever heard. Richpooch- “Keep drinking the Kool Aid my friend! The downward train began in 2005 and it appears it is gaining speed.”

We win the SEC Championship and that’s the beginning of a downward spiral? That’s one of the stupidest comments I’ve ever heard.

]]> By: Carlton Davis http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11235 Carlton Davis Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:29:03 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11235 Excellent comments.Have known of Nesmith's depth of involvement in UGA for a long time.My overwhelming reaction to his letter was:WHY? What in the world did he think the letter would accomplish?He has to know that nothing positive could come from it.Only negatives.WHY? Excellent comments.Have known of Nesmith’s depth of involvement in UGA for a long time.My overwhelming reaction to his letter was:WHY? What in the world did he think the letter would accomplish?He has to know that nothing positive could come from it.Only negatives.WHY?

]]> By: D Huck http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11231 D Huck Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:09:01 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11231 Richt has won 65 games at Georgia. Only four coaches in the nation have won more in the same amount of time. Dooley and Russell won 48 in their first seven years. 'Nuff said. Richt has won 65 games at Georgia. Only four coaches in the nation have won more in the same amount of time. Dooley and Russell won 48 in their first seven years. ‘Nuff said.

]]> By: MP http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11229 MP Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:37:20 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11229 re: richpooch "The downward train began in 2005 and it appears it is gaining speed." /The "downward train" began with a SEC championship? I must be missing the sarcasm. re: richpooch
“The downward train began in 2005 and it appears it is gaining speed.”

/The “downward train” began with a SEC championship? I must be missing the sarcasm.

]]> By: LJD http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11228 LJD Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:34:49 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11228 Mr. Nesmith's commentary seemed just what you described, a self righteous attempt to undermine Richt and what he has accomplished so far. Although nothing will ever satisfy the masses 100%, even winning the MNC, Coach Richt great job of winning and representing the school. I'm sorry that some "fans" and alumni can't whole heartedly agree. Mr. Nesmith’s commentary seemed just what you described, a self righteous attempt to undermine Richt and what he has accomplished so far.

Although nothing will ever satisfy the masses 100%, even winning the MNC, Coach Richt great job of winning and representing the school. I’m sorry that some “fans” and alumni can’t whole heartedly agree.

]]> By: Tom the Dawg http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11226 Tom the Dawg Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:00:45 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11226 Mr. NeSmith reminds me of a spoiled child pounding his silver spoon on the table and demanding dessert before he has finished his peas. Mr. NeSmith reminds me of a spoiled child pounding his silver spoon on the table and demanding dessert before he has finished his peas.

]]> By: David http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11223 David Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:13:18 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11223 Great perspective Groo. Well thought out, well said, and very persuasive. This should be the letter posted in Op/Ed pages. Great perspective Groo. Well thought out, well said, and very persuasive. This should be the letter posted in Op/Ed pages.

]]> By: Flounder http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11221 Flounder Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:57:34 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11221 "If he really desired a heart-to-heart conversation with Mark Richt or even Damon Evans, I doubt he would be turned away." This just a few paragraphs after admonishing NeSmith for making assumptions. "A petulant demand that “it’s past time for the investments to pay off” not two years after Georgia’s second SEC title under Richt is plain insulting." I see romanticizing the past has indeed been a popular coping technique this week. “If he really desired a heart-to-heart conversation with Mark Richt or even Damon Evans, I doubt he would be turned away.”

This just a few paragraphs after admonishing NeSmith for making assumptions.

“A petulant demand that “it’s past time for the investments to pay off” not two years after Georgia’s second SEC title under Richt is plain insulting.”

I see romanticizing the past has indeed been a popular coping technique this week.

]]> By: Mark S. http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11220 Mark S. Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:55:48 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11220 It is well and good to defend the current staff for accolades up to 2005, for they deserve defending. However while "dollars, top recruiting classes, and world-class facilities are" not *unique* to Georgia, we are on a level for those three combined that few others obtain. (The team that just WHIPPED Georgia, for example? They'll never have near the base of talent that Georgia gets to cherry pick from in recruiting....) So recognizing that simple fact above, it is hard to argue that since late 2005 2 Wins and 7 Losses in your own division is in any way "competitive." Those are just facts. Therefore I think performance-based strategies like advocated in the column you are criticizing, as a means of incentive for (possibly) underachieving leaders, is responsible to shareholders. It is at least a concept that shouldn't be feared. And I'm willing to bet that Richt's staff -- unlike blind emotional defenders rushing to their rescue -- are quite willing to see merit in performance-based strategies, for they are the type of people who have confidence in their program's ability over the long run. At least, we better hope they do. As to the hand-wringing over "rumors of eroding support" affecting recruiting, let's not be naive. There is no more appearance of "eroding support" at UGA than *any* other football school. They all have them, in other words.... So in summary, if "we all have the right to voice our opinion" then I would only offer that Mr. NeSmith's were no more unwarranted than blind-faith-defense-at-all-cost pleas, and much more creative. It is well and good to defend the current staff for accolades up to 2005, for they deserve defending.

However while “dollars, top recruiting classes, and world-class facilities are” not *unique* to Georgia, we are on a level for those three combined that few others obtain. (The team that just WHIPPED Georgia, for example? They’ll never have near the base of talent that Georgia gets to cherry pick from in recruiting….)

So recognizing that simple fact above, it is hard to argue that since late 2005 2 Wins and 7 Losses in your own division is in any way “competitive.” Those are just facts.

Therefore I think performance-based strategies like advocated in the column you are criticizing, as a means of incentive for (possibly) underachieving leaders, is responsible to shareholders. It is at least a concept that shouldn’t be feared.

And I’m willing to bet that Richt’s staff — unlike blind emotional defenders rushing to their rescue — are quite willing to see merit in performance-based strategies, for they are the type of people who have confidence in their program’s ability over the long run. At least, we better hope they do.

As to the hand-wringing over “rumors of eroding support” affecting recruiting, let’s not be naive. There is no more appearance of “eroding support” at UGA than *any* other football school. They all have them, in other words….

So in summary, if “we all have the right to voice our opinion” then I would only offer that Mr. NeSmith’s were no more unwarranted than blind-faith-defense-at-all-cost pleas, and much more creative.

]]> By: Frank http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11217 Frank Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:02:18 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11217 Good reply to a putrid article. The SEC is too deep for one team to dominate all the time. The dawgs do have some issues to fix -- particularly on defense. The young O-line will get better as they grow up and will be stout after this year. When they get better the offense will get better. BTW -- Dooley only had one losing season (1977). Good reply to a putrid article. The SEC is too deep for one team to dominate all the time. The dawgs do have some issues to fix — particularly on defense. The young O-line will get better as they grow up and will be stout after this year. When they get better the offense will get better.

BTW — Dooley only had one losing season (1977).

]]> By: richpooch http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11216 richpooch Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:43:41 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11216 Keep drinking the Kool Aid my friend! The downward train began in 2005 and it appears it is gaining speed. Keep drinking the Kool Aid my friend! The downward train began in 2005 and it appears it is gaining speed.

]]> By: Damon gets some advice. « Get The Picture http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11212 Damon gets some advice. « Get The Picture Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:14:58 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11212 [...] Groo makes some points in response to Mr. NeSmith’s [...] […] Groo makes some points in response to Mr. NeSmith’s […]

]]> By: Reed Hall Dawg http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11201 Reed Hall Dawg Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:44:36 +0000 http://www.dawgsonline.com/2007/10/11/firing-the-first-salvo-at-richt/#comment-11201 Damn well said. Pretty tacky way for a board member to address his (or his butt buddies')conceerns. I was a freshman in 1966. I've been a DAWG every day since that time. Sometimes it wasn't pretty, but I knew that things wouldn't stay that way for ever. Richt is the best chance we have to a solid and sustained program if the experts will just shut up and provide support. Thanks for the opportunity to add my two cents. I just can't bring myself to post on the whining and pissing boards. Damn well said. Pretty tacky way for a board member to address his (or his butt buddies’)conceerns. I was a freshman in 1966. I’ve been a DAWG every day since that time. Sometimes it wasn’t pretty, but I knew that things wouldn’t stay that way for ever. Richt is the best chance we have to a solid and sustained program if the experts will just shut up and provide support. Thanks for the opportunity to add my two cents. I just can’t bring myself to post on the whining and pissing boards.

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